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  • It says the relationship is unknown,but both groups don't tend to lie or manipulate people(as Abnegation are selfless) so why wouldn't they get along?

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    • The Erudite and some of the Dauntless leaders did not agree that the Abnegation people and leaders were taking full control, or they were controlling and overpowering the factions. They wanted to take out the Abnegation to gain mass power is my guess.

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    • Oh im sorry I did not read the question right. I will try to find an accurate awnser for you.

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    • Abnegation lie about themselves, their wants and desires in favour of others. In a way the fact they put others needs ahead of their can be viewed as them lying to themselves about themselves.

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    • Ugh, that one is supposed to be a hashtag

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    • Its because Abnegation obviously repress their feelings. All they do is just lie to themselves everyday and they limit self-expression. If anything, I as a Candor, hate Abnegation except for some of their virtues. It just doesn't make sense, personally.

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    • I found the Amity and Abnegation virtues very similar but really wouldn't law be selfless.

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    • quote from Divergent, chapter 8, page 81:

      "candor and abnegation don't hate each other the way erudite and abnegation do, BUT THEY AVOID EACH OTHER. candor's real problem is with amity. those who seek peace above all else, they say, will always deceive to keep the water calm."

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    • 83.160.195.150 wrote:
      quote from Divergent, chapter 8, page 81:

      "candor and abnegation don't hate each other the way erudite and abnegation do, BUT THEY AVOID EACH OTHER. candor's real problem is with amity. those who seek peace above all else, they say, will always deceive to keep the water calm."

      I meaned with that that the relationship is not unknown. the 2nd part also applies to abnegation, just less than amity

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    • 187.204.163.24 wrote:
      Its because Abnegation obviously repress their feelings. All they do is just lie to themselves everyday and they limit self-expression. If anything, I as a Candor, hate Abnegation except for some of their virtues. It just doesn't make sense, personally.

      Prertty much how I feel about all factions.

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    • Welp, everything is west if you're watching from the east. Everything is a lie if you're watching from Candor.

      Basically every faction is lacking in a virtue except for the faction that represents that virtue. So no wonder nobody bloody likes no one. That's why they divided. (I am referring to factions' spirit in general, not individuals. For example, an Amity and a Dauntless could be great friends. Or one person could be a bit from the both).

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